The first session I attended at the Zine Librarians (un)Conference was about how zine libraries serve the zine making community, as opposed to how we serve historians and the general reading public. We specifically asked non-librarian zine makers to attend this conference in order to get their feedback on how we're doing and what we could do better.
As with my report back on the ACRL Preconference Unconference, my notes are kind of brief, and will surely be bettered by those of the official note taker.
- What do you do if a zinester requests that you remove his/her/hir zine from your library's collection?
This has happened at the Multnomah County Library and the Gay & Lesbian Archives of the Pacific Northwest in Portland, OR and the City Library in Salt Lake, UT.
SLC offered to redact the personal information in the zine, but since the zine publisher never responded didn't do it.
The Archives respected the author, a trans man's wish to remove work that no longer reflected his identity.
I suggested that at Barnard I would immediately accede to a request to remove a zine from our circulating collection, but would try to talk the publisher into letting us keep a copy in the archives, perhaps with a do not all access to until x date. - Someone suggested that we have stated policies when zines are donated, a gift response form
- Discussion of to whom we're more beholden, history or the zine community
- Should people be able to pull zines that no longer reflect their current views, zines that they made when they were teens?
- Zines could be used as evidence in court, e.g. Ted Kaczynski tracts archived at the Wisconsin Historical Society
- Do authors have the right to unring the bell, trampling reader's rights (compared to Cat Stevens wanting to remove his records from every store in the world), importance of zines as cultural knowledge
- One zinester recommended case by case evaluation, rather than cut and dried unappealable policy
- I wanted to know how folks felt about scholars quoting zines in research. The response was that it's good manners to notify them, even better to ask first.
- Librarians should communicate that to scholars
- A zinester: Please don't bind zines like you would a magazine
- Weeding/discard: how should we handle that? Give to another library (need a centralized donation system between libraries), cataloging record should indicate where the zine went. It's okay to put zines in a giveaway box.
- Photocopying--is that okay? Try to find out per zinester. Might be okay to copy, not okay to sell.
- Sharing contact info, okay if it's published in their zines
- Zine programs can be useful for ducating about and enforcing copyright/fair use discussions
- We should develop standard etiquette a la the ALA Code of Ethics, get approval from zine community, guidelines--best way to reach zine community? We Make Zines: issues, how zines were acquired (from the publisher, from a distro, via a third party donation), publication year could be factors
- Getting permission from zinesters to include their work in our collections (too much work)
- How much we'd respect a cease and desist, perhaps based on how the zine was acquired
- Be clear that we respect zinesters' input
- Open letter to zine community, invitation to a conversation
- Digitizing zines, covers only okay? Covers should be apologize later, not ask first, the rest of the zine the other way around
- Copyright is an important distinction when explaining what zines are
- As zines, zine libraries get more popular, they are more vulnerable to cooptation
- Zinesters proud to have their zines in libraries
- What if zinesters dislike description or categorization? Librarians would welcome suggestions, CIP data
- Zinesters--reaction to someone digitizing their zines. Totally gross vs. ego stroking? Depends on the zine. (My opinion—totally gross.)
- For ILL, include copyright statement
- Draft letter to zine publishers, perhaps publish on zinelibraries.info
- What do zine librarians want from zine publishers--date, copyright preference, serial/monograph status, subscriptions, making it easier to pay for (checks from libraries?)
- Libraries should have an online form for donations--for metadata
Comments
johanna (not verified)
Sun, 03/15/2009 - 11:30am
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Re: citing zines in
Re: citing zines in research--another thing is that scholars ought to fucking respect how the zinester identifies themselves in the zine. Twice I have discovered people writing scholarly stuff about my zine using my last name--& the zines in questions never ever had my last name printed.
Dunno if you've seen all the RaceFail stuff on LJ, but it took a turn for the worst (yet again) when two people insisted on outing someone on LJ & went off on this tear about how stuff written by pseudonymous people online is cowardly & invalid & blah blah. Never mind people who might have, oh, stalkers, abusive family members, unsympathetic employers, etc. etc. etc. I feel like zinesters at least should understand this!
Anyway, my guess is that the scholars who cited my last name did so in some kind of effort to make the zine citation look more academically pretty or something. Really fucking annoying though (& I would've thought those people would've known better, as zinesters themselves, too).
jenna
Mon, 03/16/2009 - 3:27pm
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Thanks, Johanna. That's good
Thanks, Johanna. That's good stuff to think about. I'm totally going to brief all future researchers who use Barnard's collection on this and other points of zine etiquette.
I hope you had a happy birthday!
Andrew Culture ... (not verified)
Mon, 03/16/2009 - 11:10am
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Wow, for a field I always
Wow, for a field I always saw as being without rules, I'm starting to realise there are TONS! That's not probably as negative as it sounds!
jenna
Mon, 03/16/2009 - 3:29pm
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I prefer the word
I prefer the word "guidelines," but yeah, it is a good idea to have some consistency, as long as you leave the door open to be flexible when necessary.
Jeremy Brett (not verified)
Tue, 03/17/2009 - 1:18pm
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Thanks, Jenna, for all those
Thanks, Jenna, for all those helpful notes on what sounds like it was a really interesting topic. Seems to me you open a lot of cans of worms, though, when you start opening the door to allowing authors (of zines or otherwise)to call back work they're not satisfied with.
*That* was a mixed metaphor - can you open doors at the same time you're opening cans of worms? Oh, well.... :))
Anyway, in the archival world we work to get donor agreements in advance that specify the transfer of ownership of materials to us. Allowing for things like privacy restrictions, of course, that leaves us free to process the materials accordingly, display them, make them accessible, burn them in the parking lot, etc. If special restrictions are requested by the donor, we negotiate to make sure that both sides are satisfied, but unless a collection is stored "on deposit" we make sure that we have the ultimate rights over it.
Things might be different in the library world, I know, but I think if an author has produced a work and has voluntarily given it to a library for use by readers, they implicitly surrender control of that item and can't ask for it back.
Take care, Jenna,
JB
jenna
Mon, 03/30/2009 - 2:52pm
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Hey Jeremy, Thanks for your
Hey Jeremy,
Thanks for your comment. It's really useful to get this kind of info with an archival world perspective. I think Heather Davis was the only "real" archivist at the event. My perspective is that of an accidental special collections librarian who leans much more toward access than preservation that is probably good for my materials.
To me the point of this discussion was whether or not/how we should treat zinesters and their creations differently from other materials, in order to reflect and respect their community/values. I know setting up different guidelines for individual collections is a tricky business, though.
Jeremy (not verified)
Mon, 03/30/2009 - 5:13pm
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Hey, Jenna, I feel your pain
Hey, Jenna,
I feel your pain about preservation vs. access, trust me. Archives have the same problems, sometimes more so given the amounts of valuable/fragile materials we have and/or the private information we have in certain records. Personally I like to err on the side of access myself - what good is housing materials if people can't see them, right?
I can see a point in wanting to treat zinesters as a special community with particular collecting guidelines, but you start down a bad road if you start establishing different sets of rules for different contributors of materials; what would keep any group from asking for its own guidelines and/or withdrawing its materials on demand, if such a precedent were set?
Also (and this is the archivist in me talking), how can we accurately and fully document the development of a creative community if the products of their hearts and minds and spirits end up being absent and unavailable due to authorial whim? {Not that I'm trying to downplay the significance of an author's change of identity or consciousness, mind you!) What we end up with is a partial collection, full of holes, in which really interesting or significant creative expressions are not to be found?
Just some more thoughts on the subject.
Take care, Jenna.
Jeremy